That's Too Bad

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Welcome everybody to another episode of that's too bad hosted by me, Wally Wallaceauk. And here we go. Let's just dive into it. Uh, we've had a lot happen since the last time we've chatted, um, most recently the players championship. And I want to finish for Scottie Scheffler, a guy that came from, I think he was what? Fourback going into Sunday and he just played phenomenal.

I had, there's no other way to put it. Had competition towards the end. I made a huge putt on 18, go 20 under for the players championship, which is 20 under for that tournament alone. I think speaks volumes and he's not the only one. I mean, the field was very competitive first time in a few different weeks here.

Cause I think that's been the biggest complaint as of recently from golf fans and even really the golf world in general, you hear a lot of the commentators between the live and PGA that the competition on the PGA level is just hasn't been as great because a lot of the top players are on the lift tour. Uh, I think there's some truth and there's some not so. Act so Mac your comments there. Uh, but we'll get into that a little bit.

But anyways, the players championship, as we all probably saw, but refresher, Scott, any shufflers now, not only the defending champ there, uh, it goes back to back though, wins the honor Palmer last week, or I guess now a little over a week ago comes in, wins the 50th players championship in really a great fashion here. I was pre hoping for a three to four man playoff. Uh, we, we had a chance at a two man.

Windham Clark on 18, the ball, it was about 85 % in the cup. How that thing popped out for his birdie, I don't know. It works out for Scottie though. This guy's just been on an unbelievable run ever since the putter change. And I don't know if the scruff, the beard that he's grown out is a little bit of a difference maker too.

Cause here's the thing, Scottie Scheffler's ball striking has just, it's, it's been the same since he's really been on tour. He's been one of the top ball strikers on the PGA level. And really probably if you put them in the live conversation, live too, his putting is what separated him as of recently, uh, not winning as many tournaments, but still being at contention.

And, you know, going into 2024, he made a putter, he made one putter change already goes from, I think he was playing from a Scotty Cameron goes to this new putter company that I think like Nellie cord and a few other pros are going to called Olson played a couple of tournaments. And he was playing basically the same putter style, his classic blade putter and.

Uh, two weeks ago goes to the mallet style putter as something that we see now, Rory McElroy go to is we all know Rory started his career with the blade putter and made the transition to the mallet putter, uh, a while back now. And I mean, we would have to look up statistics here, but you know, Rory's putting has, you know, it's either been red hot or not so much.

probably why we haven't really seen him win too many tournaments over the last three, four years. Um, but still one of the top players in the world. Uh, Scotty ever since he's made this change to the Malaputter, his putting has just been complete 180. He's out of pace right now, in my opinion, kind of like an early Tiger Woods. Hey, he's almost untouchable. He's art two tournaments now in 2024. He's won.

Everybody knows the players is the unofficial fifth major. So here we are. He's, he's won already one of the biggest tournaments of the year, right out the gate, heading into the masters. I don't know how Scotty won't be everybody's top pick to win the green jacket, but again, now you're going to bring in live guys in a few weeks who are playing great golf, Brooks Capca, Dustin Johnson, um, you know, few others.

Joaquin Nieman is playing lights out right now, has already won a tournament this year on the live tour. We'll see what happens. I mean, this is what we're all waiting for, right? Like we were just, you know, how I just mentioned, you know, the golf community has criticized a lot of these smaller tournaments on the PGA tour because they don't incorporate everybody on tour, which is the live guys. Um, and.

Again, I think the you're splitting hairs here. Yes. I think we all want to see everybody play on the same platform, the same tournament at the same time. We're giving opportunities to other golfers from the corn fairy and other smaller tours. You know, make, you know, give them a chance, but realistically let's be serious. We want to see Brooks Kafka, Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed, and so forth go up against Tiger Woods.

Scottie Scheffler, Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, et cetera. At the end of the day, we all want them on one tournament, one tour. Again, I think we're going towards that. I think PGA this week was meeting with PIF, which is the investment company for Live Golf. I don't know how that will turn out because I think there's still a lot of animosity towards.

J. Monahan and the back and forth like. Stuff that's going on with him and the PGA tour and trying to get a deal going and eventually get these lift guys back in the PGA guys all mesh into one. There's so many logistics that have to occur that. Does this happen this year? I don't know. I don't think so. Do we take a step forward?

towards that? Yes. Ultimately, you know, this is what these players want. They want more security and the money. They want more money. And I think some of these bigger players want to play less tournaments. This is going to factor into FedEx points though, and different things. I mean, we've already seen how the golf rankings, the OWGR rankings are

I mean, realistically skewed because the live guys dropped significantly because they claim that their tournaments, they cannot calculate to accurately rank them. I think realistically we can all, we all know where they fall in. Uh, but anyways, so going back to Scotty Shuffler, he's one of the highest golfers right now. And he's been one of the highest golfers over the, what the last few years.

And this putter change though, I think has really been a huge difference maker. And for the rest of the golf community and the PGA tour that has to go up against him week in and week out, you know, good luck. He, that now that he's got the putting figured out what's going to stop him. We just saw the players this past weekend. You know, he strained his neck shoulder area where.

In between holes, he was letting Ricky Fowler and whoever else in his group go ahead of him and play essentially ready golf or just next up in the order. So he can use that availability to get worked on by, you know, massage, physical therapist, whatever it was on his, I mean, every swing you could tell he was cringing, but yet guy was, wasn't missing a fairway was. You know, throwing darts with his wedges out of the bunker was, was solid.

Even a hurt Scotty Shuffler is dangerous. And this is very oddly similar to an early Tiger Woods. There was no stopping Tiger Woods back in the early 2000s and the late 90s when he figured it out and got it going. And when Tiger got it going, I mean, we saw him win major after major after major. Will Scotty be that next Tiger Woods? I think we thought.

Anthony Kim and then Rory McElroy were going to be the next Tiger Woods and well, we all know Anthony Kim fall off the face of the earth after about 2012 and Rory's, you know, after that fourth major, he just hasn't hasn't been able to do it. Hasn't been able to complete the the career Grand Slam by winning the Masters, the one major he's missing off his resume and all the other majors, you know, he has struggled last year in the Masters.

I don't think he made the cut. Have to look back. But regardless, this guy is number two, number three in the world. And the last term, I think that I remember him winning was the Scottish Open last year, usually the tournament right before the open. So I think Rory still has a long way to go. I think it's frustrating him that he's not winning majors. I think if you watch season two of that full swing.

It's well documented that, uh, especially last year when Brooks Koepka comes out and won his fifth major. Now, as he mentioned, there's guys in his general age bracket or, you know, even before, you know, younger are surpassing him and that wins four majors and, and it's starting to bother him. So I think Rory still, I mean, again, guy is still hitting bombs with the drivers. I mean, his length off the tee.

Three wooden driver, even his eyes. He's always, he's still great wedge player. Like I said, the putting is either it's there or it's not for him from over the last couple of years. And I think that's the biggest difference maker. What changes does he have to make? I'm not really sure. Uh, but he's got to make something. He's got to, he's got to change something up because what he's been doing so far, clearly he's making money.

Endorsements and finishing in the top 20 top 15 top 10 but. He's not doing enough or he's making critical mistakes down the line to cause him not to win. That that next major. So we'll see what happens with him, but right now I think I would be more fearful if I'm on the PJ tour. What's Scottie Shuffler is going to do? I mean, here's the thing. He's expected to be a.

Uh, first time dad here, I think in a month or two, uh, you know, so that awesome for him. I'm you know, he's good. Probably take time off. I imagine being it being a first time dad. If I'm on the PGA tour, take advantage of that time off because once he comes back. I mean, I'm sure he's going to be practicing as much as he's able to with the newborn, uh, no, but you know, we'll see, you know, I imagine he's going to figure it out.

And stay ready because once he is ready to make that return and play it is that next tournament after winning his first year after having his first kid. I'm sure he's going to come and play lights out like like he normally does. So, so yeah, so. But let I want to switch gears here a little bit, you know, a few weeks ago, not really a few weeks ago.

Uh, we've, we've seen two big returns and professional golf. Last time we talked, I, I, or I've talked about Anthony Kim briefly and it probably wasn't briefly, but, um, and I won't talk about him too much. I only got a little bit to talk about, uh, about him, but I think one that kind of flew under the radar because it was really about the same time. Anthony Kim makes his debut with the live tour was a Bud Colley.

on the PGA tour. Now I remember him earlier like five, six years ago. I don't recall really remembering how he did, how he played and all that, but something that I did not know when watching it was the Waste Management Open was the comment that this was his return to golf in five years. So right away I had to look that up.

Why did he disappear for five years? Did he lose his car? Was he just not playing well? So basically what I ended up finding out. So for people that don't know, this guy suffered a traumatic leg injury in a car accident back in 2018 in Ohio. I'm looking down right now at my notes here, because I want to make sure I get everything right here. Suffered five broken ribs, broken leg, and had a collapsed lung.

comment from his from himself and his dad back then was he was lucky to be alive. Apparently after he had surgery he suffered different infections from his colon fluid buildup on the side of his chest and rib cage. They tried removing I guess excuse me a bunch of a plate or two from the initial surgery but.

Eventually they weren't able to remove it because bones and stuff had grown over the plate. And basically he attempted to make different returns. He practiced and not really re -injured himself, but he just, he prolonged it because again, stitches and stuff were ripping and he just wasn't, the body just wasn't healing because I think he was itching to get back out into golf.

So he really had to take time off completely to fully heal. Well, now fast forward five years. I mean, it's not, not a year, not five months, not even two years. This guy had sat out for professional golf for five years, debuted essentially this year at the Phoenix open.

Finished 65th, made the cut. So you're playing in your first term in five years, make the cut. And it's a chaotic scene for not just the golfers, but anybody. So to make your debut at one of the most chaotic tournaments ever, make the cut, finish the top 65. I would say that's one of the biggest accomplishments he's going to have in his career.

Not a major, not the excess millions of dollars that he's going to accumulate. Returning from a traumatic car accident, being able to play professional golf again, something he obviously truly loves to do is going to be the biggest accomplishment. For my opinion, I would, I would think that's a huge accomplishment. And then recently played in the cogs in it.

Nizant trying to say that right trying to say that fast to classic and again made the cut finished in the top 20 I think to earth. I'm sorry top 25 finished 21st So I mean just overall I mean that that's an incredible story that I think again kind of flew under the radar unless you watched the waste management of cognizant tournaments on TV Because I know they did briefly mention it and like myself and I'm sure other

Avid golf fans had to go back and look up what happened, you know, what, why was Bud Collie, uh, out of golf for the last five years. Uh, so it's, it's great seeing him back on tour. Uh, hopefully this year we see more success, uh, top 15, stop 10s and maybe a win here. That guy has a lot of talent and now that he's healthy, he, without that.

rehab and surgeries he had to endure. It's great to see him, his story back on tour competing again. And like I said, I think this was overshadowed by now here we go on the live tour side and Anthony Kim makes his debut same weekend, same general week weekend and.

Here's the thing. I think people expected Anthony Kim to come out and win the Jetta, the tournament he debuted in. I think if you thought he was going to win any type of professional golf tournament after 12 years of not just playing, hasn't owned his own set of clubs until I mean, the stuff that's coming out as of recently.

about him is pretty wild. I mean, right now he's playing with just stock clubs in a putter, nothing that he's been fitted for. So, I mean, it leads you to wonder what happened to the clubs that he used to play back in the late 2000s with. I mean, again, I think those were titles or Nike clubs because he was a big Nike guy. And it really is wild for a guy to...

For us average golfers, that's what we do. We go to the PGA store, we go to Golf Galaxy, we go to our local pro shops, and we go find some shit on the shelf because we saw so -and -so on Sunday in the PGA or any type of tournament use a variation of this club and go spend three, $400 or thousands of dollars if you're doing the whole set.

to have that in our bag and play like maybe shit the next day. And Anthony Kim is a professional golfer on the live tour and essentially did the same thing. He went and got stock clubs, was not fitted for them or anything. And here he is playing in professional tournaments. So, I mean, it's a wild story. But here's the other thing. I think, again, he got ripped to shreds, you know.

Uh, and how he played in the first, you know, again, live tours, three, three day tournaments. I think he kind of got ripped to shreds on, you know, his ball striking and putting itself. Listen, you take 12 years off of golf. Don't touch a club. You don't practice nothing and go play around a golf after that. His first tournament, the Jetta shooting 76 all three days. I mean, I would take that.

I thought that was pretty impressive. Yes, he did some stuff that is not good. He had a couple shanks. He was wild off the tee with the driver. He had hard time with the speeds of the greens with chipping and even his putting, but there were glimpses of, you know, that we're going to move in the right direction with ball striking. The swing looks exactly the same as it did 12, 13, 15 years ago.

when he first got on tour. So there's, I mean, it's just going to be a slow progress. Now he just recently played in Hong Kong, which I think was a week or two after, and he ended up playing the last day, I think, was it 67 or something like that. He ended up playing very well. I think he had about five birdies, maybe one bogey, a lot of pars.

He is progressing a lot quicker than a lot of people, I think. Now we're anticipating after the Jetta. I think after the Jetta, everybody's like, oh, here we go. Finished last place, whatever. This guy's washed up. Why did he come back? Blah, blah, blah. If you thought that, you're dead wrong. I didn't see a washed up golfer. I saw a guy that was happy to be back out there. He was walking around with his caddy. He looks like a casual Sunday golfer. Polo's untucked.

He's not wearing the famous big AK buckle on his belt. I don't think he wore a belt at all, to be honest with you, that we've known him to do when he was younger. And he was, you know, talking it up with the caddy, just walking in. It looked like he was just enjoying a round of golf, to be honest with you. And maybe he was. I think we're going to see a lighter side to the Anthony Kim versus back 15 years ago, the guy that had all this fire.

inside to take down everybody around him. Now he did come out and say that he was going to whoop a lot of asses this on the live tour. So I think the competitive spirit is still there, but I think, you know, he knows that this is going to take some time and I think he's moving in the right direction. So, you know, he's now going to play in the States coming up here for the first time in 12 plus years. So this will be interesting to see again how he continues to progress.

This year in the live tour, he looks healthy. I, the, you know, he's got the long hair. He's got the full sleeve tattoo. Uh, he, he, again, I, I, I'm excited to see what's going to happen for him in, uh, this year on the, not just the live tour, but in golf in general, you know, just played and I think in a Asian or DP, not the DP, it might've been an Asian tour about recently.

Didn't make the cut, but again, he's playing a lot of golf now. He's wanting to. And for all the AK fans out there that have been wanting this for 12 years, this is exactly what we want. This is what we like to see him not being down on himself after finishing last place in a tournament, uh, with a lot of the top golfers in the world.

You know, he came back out the next week flew to Hong Kong and played another tournament and then played in another tournament and we hope to continue to see that trend for him. So it's good to see him again. Good to see both Bud Collie and Anthony Kim back playing professional golf at a competitive level and expect big things for them this year. So, shift in a little gears here.

I mean, we're going to stay on topic here a little bit with about the PJ and live. I know we're beating this like a dead horse and the media and everybody else does as well when you turn on the golf channel and all that. So I'm not going to talk about this, this topic too much here, but it's Paul Aizinger a few weeks back made a comment. I'm reading it off my screen here directly because I don't want to misquote it. He wrote or he said, and I quote,

The best players aren't all playing PGA Tour tournaments. That's over He continues to say let's just say it like this the PGA Tour has fast become the qualifier for live and it's a sad day for golf end quote

Uh, how do I react to a comment like this? I don't think he's necessarily wrong.

I think he's a little drastic with this comment. Yeah, there's a lot of guys that have gone from the PGA Tour to the Liv Tour. And, you know, it's one of those things where it's like, do you blame these guys? They're getting paid guaranteed money up front. They're playing less tournaments. I mean, it's the same shit we talk about that I've talked about on the first episode. I think even my second episode.

So the same shit different month, different week that I'm recording and same with the media. You can't blame these guys for taking an opportunity that was given to them. They took guaranteed money upfront. Okay, financial stability in this world and this economy we're in, especially if you're in America, we need it. Even though you're making millions of dollars on PGA TOUR, but again,

You're not guaranteed if you don't make cuts and like for like guys, but you know, and their last year in the tour, like Brooks Koepka who was hurt. He was struggling to make cuts. And if you're a golfer that doesn't have endorsements locked down to help you, you really pay for your bills and in your lifestyle, which not every golfer is lucky to be like Tiger Woods and Roy McElroy and Phil Mickelson and John Rahm and so forth.

It's what do you do? Greg Norman created an opportunity for a tour with an investment group and you know, these select golfers took advantage of it. Is it right? Is it wrong? I'm not going to answer that. I don't have something. I'm not going to talk here about that today. Just in relation to Paul Azenger's comment though.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, we're seeing more guys see what's going on over at live the dynamic, the more freedom. And now when I say freedom, I'm talking about like they have more time for family and relaxing and rehab and whatever else is going on in their life. And I think it's very appealing more and more each day to, to golfers on the PGA tour. I don't think it's like everybody's.

loving it, which is why we're not seeing everybody go over. But I think more and more we're seeing more guys on the PGA go, I wonder if I can get over there. So again, this is where I'm like, this could be a little bit of a dramatic, drastic comment, but I, at the same time, I don't think he's completely wrong because again, a lot of the top golfers from the PGA have left to go to live. And that's, you know, Dustin Johnson.

Patrick Reed, Brooks Kapko, throwing Phil Mickelson, I guess, in there, I mean, because he did win the US Open a couple years ago. I think it was the US Open. And Joaquin Nieman and so many other guys. I mean, really the live tour is full of all -stars. And PJ still has very qualified, great golfers.

Rory, JT, Jordan Spieth and so forth. I just think there's been a lot of inconsistency from those select guys. So now it looks, it makes the live guys really shine. So, you know, that's, that's really all I want to say on this matter. If anybody wants to message me DM me, whatever, with their comments.

their thoughts and you know, let's have not an argument, but let's have a conversation about it. Hit me up on my social media is here, Twitter or X, whatever it's called nowadays, Instagram and TikTok and all this stuff. And, and, you know, let's talk about it. Cause I, I'm curious what other people are thinking when Paul Aizinger makes comments like this. I'm curious what everybody out there is thinking.

Uh, as we continue in this PGA versus live life that we're in, I mean, this is now our third year, third season into this. And even though we're trying to move towards the dynamic of merging, I'm just curious what everybody out there is thinking, you know, there's thought process and so forth. Um, so, okay. So I've talked about on the first episode here that.

I want this to be also a podcast for amateur golfers. Again, I'm not a qualified to tell people what they're doing wrong, how they're doing it wrong. Cause I still have a lot of issues that I'm working through in my own golf swing and my own golf game. And I'm hoping to improve this year too. I'm trying to go from a four handicap of a 4 .1 right now. I'm trying to get down to a one to two. It's going to be leaps and bounds for me this year.

And I'm putting in the work at the range lessons. Hopefully I can get to that. Um, just continuous drills and different things that I'm working on. Um, but as amateur golfers and our classic weekend, Saturday for the boys, Sunday for the boy golfers, whatever you want to call it. Um, you hear the same shit.

weekend and week out. Uh, you know, oh, like the guy that can't break 80. Oh my God shot 80 on the dot shot 82 another 85. You know, the guys that come continues to complain and are expecting by the next weekend when they go play something to miraculously happen. I've always laughed because it's like,

Cause then the next round happens. Oh, shot 82 again. Can't break 80. What'd you do between now and the last time you shot 82 and you didn't break 80? Oh, I went to the driving range and I hit driver, hit four iron. Some guys don't even go to the range. I get it. Everybody's busy, work, family, different things are going on. You want to, you know, do different things. What a...

Hey, I'm the same way. I'm not here to criticize. I'm just saying like as amateur golfers, let's be realistic. Let's not be so hard on ourselves when stuff doesn't change right away. I think the moment we buy a new club or someone looks up on YouTube how...

Like Phil Mickelson hits this wedge shot, this flop shot. So I'm going to do it. I think when it doesn't work out or they think, Hey, they know how to do this. The score is going to drop five to 10 strokes. It don't happen like that. I mean, it's just, um, how do we get better though? As amateur golfers, we got to take advantage of the stuff that's around us. Like even around our house. I mean, just going in our backyard with our wedge.

A simple drill is just putting a hula hoop or piece of string and making a circle if you got it. We got rope, string, something, bungee cords at our house. I'm almost positive 99 .9 % of us. Go take a bunch from, make a circle in your backyard, front yard, wherever on the side of your house where there's grass. And just take a few different golf balls or take however many golf balls you got and take your wedge and

Start out with five yards, back it up to 10 yards, and get as many golf balls in that circle as possible. No, it's not a green, so you're not gonna see the ball spin and maybe check or anything like that. As amateur golfers, you're not trying to do that right now. Again, it's just taking advantage of the stuff that's around us. Even just simply going and taking a club, taking your phone camera, and just looking at your swing.

And what looking to see where your hands are going. Are you going more up? Are you going all the way back and kind of swoop and scoop and, you know, stuff that I've also struggled with scooping because your wrists are getting underneath and stuff like that. It's just. If we're not going to go to the driving range to practice because people think practice isn't going to do much, I'm going to get better at the course. Yes and no.

You're going to get better, I think, in different scenarios. But as far as ball striking and chipping and stuff like that, I know you don't, I don't think you progressively get better on a course that way that happens on the range. You're going to work on hand positions on your club and stuff like that. You're doing that on the range, trying to change stuff on the course has.

It just does not work. And I don't even, I mean, watch professional golf. When stuff's not working, they're not necessarily, I think, trying to make changes for the rest of their career on that course right now. They might be trying to change a little bit of something. Now again, cause they're professionals, they might know what they need to change. But as amateurs, that's something that I think.

we see and struggle with is something doesn't work out while we're in the middle of our round. And initially they're going to say, oh, I think I know what it is. Do we though? Again, I'm a big, I'm very big on getting lessons or going to the driving range. Again, I'm a big practice guy. I try to go to the range as much as possible, work on different things. Again, not everybody has that kind of time.

Uh, and I can sympathize, but again, I think there's things we, like I said, you could do around your house that can help get better. Form that muscle memory, driving your hands forward and stuff like that, where you don't necessarily have to go hit a golf ball. You could just continuously do stuff in your backyard. It's getting nicer outside in the Midwest where I'm where I'm living. Go, I'll go. I mean, my backyard is three feet wide and 20 feet long or something like that.

I go out and I just swing my club and just rip up my grass because what do I care? My dog's already ripping up my grass playing fetch with him. So I just continue to make divots where I'm at and just graze grass with my wedges. And sometimes I'll go out there and I'll just kind of do like little, little chip shots to see how close I can get to the fire pit. Just different things will eventually build the success on the golf course. And again, we need to be realistic. We're.

We're trying to knock off a couple strokes at a time. We're not trying to knock off 10. And...

And it's just understanding again, the course management. I think, you know, I've mentioned this before in the first episode, it's understanding situations that you're in on the golf course. If you're under a tree, you know, or is it worth trying to go for a green and two when you can punch one up there closer, get a nice wedge in and get it close to enough to where you can, you have a very good chance of getting a birdie versus.

You know, potentially slicing your three wood or hooking it or topping it, which is very common because I think people think your three wood is like a driver. You got to help it up and scoop it up, but it's really, it's like an iron. You got to compound it and compress it through into the grass and let the club then do the work for you. Get it up in the air and stuff. Um, so yeah, I, it's just like little things here.

Uh, again, I'm not a professional. I'm not a certified PGA coach or any of the sorts. Uh, so take my words of wisdom. If you want to call it like that with, with a grain of salt. Again, I, I have a lot of stuff I'm working through right now. If you're interested, I'm going to post later this week, my latest driving range session, uh, where I use my rap Soto. Uh,

device, whatever you want to call it, a launch monitor. And, um, that's where I have a bunch of videos to show that I'm struggling right now with my, with my right heel. I rotate a lot on my right heel, heel, cause my hips kind of stall out and which causes then my hands to kind of scoop. So I've been really working on trying to drive the hands, get the hips to roll over.

and rotate on my, and pivot on my right foot on the balls of my feet and my toes, not my heel. So again, I mean, as a guy who's a 4 .1 handicap, I still have a lot of shit I got to work through. I still, I'm working on also still adjusting with wedges, dialing those in from different yardages. And I mean, a couple of years ago, I thought my putting was very good. Last year, my putting I think was so -so.

And so now I really want to dial in my putting. And when I go to the driving range, especially in the summertime, I break it out into two segments. Cause I'll be there from like between an hour and a half to two hours first hour or so I'm hitting golf balls. And I adopted something from full swing that I learned from Matthew Fitzpatrick. When if you watch the episode, he's talking to his brother about.

going to the range and not hitting every club in your bag. Cause it's not neat. Cause you're not going to necessarily learn and get that stuff dialed in hitting 14 club or 13 clubs for some guys might even have 17, 18, 20 clubs, depending on, you know, type of golfer you are. And, uh, he recommended his brother, you know, one day, why don't you hit odd numbers? And then the next day you hit even. So that's what I, I kind of started doing last year.

And I kind of liked it because I can really then spend more time on those clubs with the range balls that I get and just build the more consistency with those clubs, you know, going from a nine to seven to a five to my three iron. And then I'll hit three wooden driver, but I won't hit as much because I know I'm going to hit them again, probably in a day or two when I want to go hit eight, six, four iron and then.

I always hit the wedges no matter what. I hit full wedges and then I'll hit like little bump and runs and stop, you know, little chippy wedges. You know, local ranges always have the buckets, the nuts and stuff. So I'm always trying to hit to different nuts and whatever. And then I go with the putting green and the chipping green and I'll spend the next 45 minutes to an hour over there. I'll do different chips, different scenarios, trying to go over a bunker.

close, far. I'll try to hit different ones up in the air to get them to stop and just plop. I'll try to hit low spinners and then I'm working on putting uphill downhill left and right brakes and all that stuff. Again, my my way of practicing is not going to be something that's appealing to a lot of other people or want to put that kind of time in. I get it. That's just me. I like to practice.

And I like then to have my practice show on the course. Uh, again, I, people can pray me, can critique me and say, you're spending too much time practicing. It could be possibly true. I could probably spend less time. I don't know. It's just something I like to do though, but I digress. Well, I want to also just mention here that we got another good segment here coming up.

on this episode here. I have now JP Burke, corn fairy caddy joining me here. So he's going to hear talk about, we're just talk about different things going on with him, what it's like to be a caddy on the corn fairy tour and you know, what we, what he expects between him and who he's caddying for this year and expectations for moving forward.

years from now and stuff like that and their drive to bigger and better things in the golf professional world here. So enjoy this segment with JP Burke.

We got a JP Burke over here. Uh, first time, uh, hosting a caddy on the, on podcast here, JP, thanks for, uh, joining the show and, uh, how are we doing? Doing swell wall for having me. Um, yeah, I'm happy to be here. Uh, so I, for people that don't know, I mean, obviously I just mentioned your caddy, uh, but you know, for the listeners, you know, just a little brief intro on who JP the caddy is right now.

Sure. Yeah. JP, the caddy. This is his first time, my first season doing it full time. I had been caddying for the guy I'm caddying for now, Austin Hitt, just once a year for the past two seasons when he was on Latin America tour, which is now PGA Tour Americans. But I was working different jobs. I was working in software.

And then property management. So I'd have one week off go. We at first went to Guadalajara, Mexico with him. And the next time it was Bogota and both those events we came in second. So by the end of the second season he had on the Latin America tour and it turned because he got promoted to the corn fair tour. He's like.

I was telling him, at that point I wasn't liking my job. And I was telling him, I was like, Hey, I'd like to officially throw my name in the hat to be your full -time caddy. And that was all it took. He, he's a, my childhood best friend. So, you know, we, I've played all different types of sports with them. So, just from a teammate's perspective and a friend's perspective, I know it'd be a really good friend and teammate to him. So the caddy thing kind of comes naturally.

That's sweet. Yeah, I mean, I guess that kind of answers what my next question was going to be, is how did you become not only his caddy, but a caddy in general? It's a sweet story. I don't know if you've watched the documentary on Netflix, everybody loving the full swing, and then you would get to see.

the relationship, the caddy relationship between Gino and Joel David. So I got to ask is that, is that that caddy relationship very common, not only with you and you know, who you're cadding for, but with the other caddies that you kind of get to mingle with and you get to see on the corn fairy tour and other tournaments. Is that, is that kind of how it is for a lot of them? Oh yeah. I mean, there's a.

wide range of varieties of different caddies, just like there's different types of players. So, you know, there's golf genius caddies that their job is to know, you know, every single shot, every single read of every putt. That's what they're there to do. And then there are just best friends that are out there and that don't know anything about golf. And then there's everything in between.

It really does matter just what the player needs and wants. So like Gino for Joel, he's a fun loving guy. Obviously he knows a lot about the game of golf. He's been doing it with Joel for a while. But at the end of the day, he creates an environment that is fun, not just for one week, but for a whole season, which is big. It's like you can't just say the same jokes every week or have a lot of energy one week and then have zero energy.

another week. You know, you got to keep that flat line of you're genuinely excited to be there, but it's not like you're bouncing off the walls. It's like, yeah, you're showing your player you want to be there. You show up on time. You know, all the little things are done correctly. You know, they're obviously their clubs are always clean. They always have water in the bag ready for whenever they need it. The towels always wet on one side, dry on another.

And then slowly but surely, you know, you can help the player out a little bit, but players these days are, you know, they're so smart and just have so much data at their disposal with, you know, lasers and 18 birdies or like the GPS to show you like, you know, you can look at any, any course before you even step foot there. So it's like, more and more.

a caddy's job is just to create an environment week after week that puts the player in the best state of mind and allows him to compete at his best every week. So it depends what the player is. My player, Austin, he is an extremely smart and cerebral player. So even if I was the smartest caddy out there, he wouldn't be conferring with the caddy too much because in his head,

If he brings another person's input in, all of a sudden, if it's exactly that with what he's thinking, now there's two conflicting thoughts. So he likes to put it all on himself. And then I'm literally there as like the guy on the basketball bench, like getting hyped for his teammates. Like literally keeping the good vibes, getting conversation going with the other golfers and other caddies in our group to maintain just that like.

This is just a group of dudes playing some golf on the weekend and kind of pop the pressure of, you know, this is a high stakes tournament. Yeah. I mean, you bring up an interesting and good point because I think we see it now, especially a lot in golf. You know, we're watching on TV at the different levels. And I think it's compared to, I would assume, probably.

what like early two thousands and probably even before that golf was like where caddies were, I think more reliant or dependable as far as like the yardages and different things where now the players have kind of really owned that portion of it. It seems like, I mean, you see, you see and hear the conversations now with all the technology that we have with all these different microphones at tournaments when you're watching them on TV. And, uh, I,

the players knowledge and the stuff they're spewing out. I mean, sometimes goes over my head what they're talking about where, where I'm like, no, it looks like it's just a simple hundred yards. We got to clear 90, 10 mile per hour wind, right to left. What else? You've been, you know, then they start breaking down the grain of the grass, the type of grass, you know, it's, it's, it's wild. The thought process that's a lot of the golfers.

in this modern era have where I, you know, that's where I was curious, like as a caddy is it, you know, we've gone from like the old school, like fluff and even bones, McKay, who I'm sure those guys are known for helping with the yardages and they're pacing stuff off and they're looking at the wind and the grass. And now there's like players that are like similar to like Bryce and D Shambo.

they're the ones gonna tell the caddy what they see and you know, I'm guessing the caddies, you know, are, I mean, unless it's what, in your perspective, unless you think it's completely dead wrong, is that when you would jump in and say, hey, this is what I'm thinking versus trying to like, you know, always disagree with their mindset, you know, go along with it, unless you just think it's completely not in the deck of cards there.

Um, it's a good question. It's a little more nuanced than that. It's the decision is always in the golfers and a confident decision by the golfer is always going to be a better decision. Even if it's wrong, as long as it's confident, he's probably going to hit the ball better. Then he has the right answer, but he's not fully confident on it or he felt like he made the wrong read. So.

Our job really is caddies. I'm drawing a blank on Scotty Scheffler's caddies name. But he's been a caddy for over 20 plus years. And if you watch him, he does a great job of making it seem so simple. He just provides Scotty with all the data necessary for Scotty to make the decision.

Uh, so that's kind of what we're there to do. It's, it's not that I would ever tell Austin, um, you know, nah, I don't agree with you on this shot. It's more, uh, if he is saying, Oh, I think I might go with this club and there is some, any sort of disagreeing on it. Instead of saying, Oh, I think this way it's more of like a reminder that, you know, the wind is, is picking up or we're kind of hidden by the trees right now.

Um, it's only going to be as active, you know, above the truth. Let him have that reminder of what's going on. But if he goes, no, no, no, I like seven here. Boom. That's the right answer. It's like just, just making sure he has all the data in order to make a confident decision. And if he makes a confident decision, that's better than a non -confident correct decision every time. So it's weird. It's like, you never want.

It to be, you never want to give your, your player at play. Now I don't think that's right. It's more. Here's, here's an additional piece of information to maybe you change your mind a little bit, but if that's your, if that's your choice, let's go with it. Let's ride. Yeah. Almost like the equivalent of like back in school, like the teacher is going to keep giving you different hints, but they want you to ultimately get to the answer yourself.

So I guess that's kind of what you're as a caddy, you're just going to continue giving the facts and you know, you're not convincing them to go in one direction or to choose a certain club. You just pay, I'm going to provide you all the facts that I see right now in front of us and basically give them that tool to, Hey, make the decision, stay confident with the decision and let's get it on the green here. Exactly.

Now, and now, and I can call a spade a spade, like if Austin is standing over a shot and I'm watching his pre shot routine and he's already gone through it three times more than the regular one time through. He's obviously not very confident on the shot or he's thinking a little bit too much on it. So then at that moment you can say, Hey, let's talk about this a little bit. Let's step off the ball. Or like.

I don't know. You're not really convinced that this is the right shot, right? Like just giving that like, Hey, I'm noticing you're, you're not full sending the shots. So let's see, let's take a step off and talk about that. Not that I'm going to say, I that he doesn't know, but talking about getting the thoughts out of his head so we can get a clear headed golf swing. Yeah. And so I guess I'm also curious because, you know, I think you see in like,

Similar in your situation, you and Austin versus a lot of the other caddy golfer relationships. A lot of these guys have known each other for a long time since they were kids and stuff like that. And you kind of really see, I mean, it definitely shows, especially when you're watching, you know, on the PGA tour, those certain relationships. And I think what's kind of funny and cool at the same time is like when something doesn't go right.

you can kind of maybe, I don't know, maybe at that exact moment, but later on you can kind of laugh about it. I guess one instant that really pops up in my mind is, I don't know how long, this might be what, three, four, five years ago. I think it was at East Lake was when Paul Casey on 18 was thought he got a four iron in his hand from his caddy, but gave him a three iron, flushed it and went flying over the green and.

The caddy's reaction was hilarious. I forget his name. Um, but I know he's been with Paul Casey for a long time and his reaction was priceless. Cause he looked like he just had like the fear of God. Oh my, I'm going to get fired. And Paul's reaction was he just started laughing. So I think it's kind of cool seeing that relationship. So I guess my question for you in Austin's relationship, you guys have known each other for a long time. Do you guys have those kinds of moments where you guys, something doesn't go right. You can kind of go.

Yeah, that that that was probably not great and maybe laugh about it. Maybe later, maybe later in the day, not maybe not in the round, but maybe later that day over a couple of drinks or something. Maybe later in the day, for sure, after the tournament has ended. There's there is like while you're still in the tournament, you, you know.

Each day you feel a little bit of the pain from each tiny mistake. But I mean, his biggest blow up that I have seen while on the back for him, he was not laughing about at the end of the tournament, but we have laughed about it multiple times since the conclusion of the tournament. So yeah, it's, it's, uh, there's definitely maybe a 72 hour.

weight period before you can make a joke about it. But then after you get past the 72 hours, everything's open game. There. That sounds good. Um, as like, you know, we see through a lot of social media, YouTube, and now even like on TV and stuff, especially with like the Netflix series, we get to see the golfers, like what goes on before they get to the first tee, how they warm up, even just like signing in and stuff.

Something I think we don't ever get to really see is what are the caddies doing in preparation while the golfers are warming up and stuff. So I'm curious, like it maybe just, maybe yours is different than other caddies, but what, what is JP doing during the warmup process with us and without them, uh, leading up to that first tee? Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. Um, um, I would, I would, I would think.

My process is pretty similar than the rest of the caddies, but it starts with either the night before or the morning of. I check Corn Fairy Tour communications on Twitter and they came out with the pin locations for that day. So I will draw them out in my yardage book, like on the actual greens themselves, just so we can visualize where they are on that green.

And we don't talk about it, but just so I have. And I then in the morning, do the morning report. So, starting from our tea time to 5 hours past, make sure we have the wind. Dialed in for the day. I then write down our tea time, what tea we're starting at and who we're playing with. So that's all in the front of my yard book. Then once we actually get.

To the event, we always get there about an hour and a half before tea time so that we have 30 to 40 minutes of eating and you know, doing whatever we need to do before actually swinging the club. So whether he's warming up or he's in the restroom, whatever you gotta do. So that right about 55, 50 minutes before tea time, he's starting to putt.

So in that time I am starting to clean dry the all the grips because in the morning there's condensation so dry all the grips of the clubs. Using my brush to get through all the grooves of the clubs make sure the faces are clean. Once he's done putting into the driving range he starts shooting his shots.

As he's working through each of the clubs, I'm collecting like five to six perfectly unscratched balls out of the out of all the range buckets and keeping them dry so that when he starts to hit his driver, he has a dry ball so it doesn't just slide off the face and has no scratches on him. So there's no risk of him breaking his driver before the round starts.

But most days he's plugged in. He doesn't like to talk too much before the round. He likes his quiet time. So I'm making sure he's drinking water throughout the whole time. I got my sunscreen on before the round starts. And honestly, I try to make it a point that I'm chatting it up with at least one other caddy or player beforehand. Just to, like, it sounds lame, but I get loose myself in terms of conversationally.

Cause that's what I can bring during the round is a fun, relaxed golf environment. So, um, yeah, it's, that's, that's what I do every time. Um, most caddies do it pretty similar, uh, set up, but doing all of that, especially the stuff that night before allows me just be relaxed and enjoy the morning as opposed to trying to make our opinion.

Locations as he's warming up and kind of freaking out. I gotta catch up on my work. Getting that all done at like four so that I can really enjoy the morning and show off. I'm prepared, confident and like let's go have a fun day as opposed to I gotta get this done. I gotta get this done. I gotta get this done. Like the players can see. The players are like dogs. Like you know like in a dog.

sees someone who's nervous or scared, like they start showing their teeth and things are around them. Players can see that with their caddies. So it sounds crazy because I try to be as cool, calm, collected as I can be pre -round, social, because it shows other players, it's like, okay, cool, that's my guy, he's ready to rock.

Yeah, if he sees you're nervous, then he might start wondering why is my caddy getting all nervous now? I'm starting to get nervous. This guy's supposed to be confident. Why is he nervous? So I guess, so I mean, you said Austin's pretty reserved and quiet while he's warming up, getting ready for the round. Is it different when we're on the course? And I know that's a loaded question because I'm sure it's going to depend on how well or not well he's playing.

So I guess let's, let's do the, let's do the ladder. He's, he's playing well. Is he type the guy that's going to chat it up with who you guys are playing with that day or chat it up just with you or is he still pretty reserved as a golfer? You know, cause I know there's golfers out there when they're playing well, they'd really like to maybe not entirely zone out everything and everybody, but you know, a block out a lot of it because I'm playing well.

I know we got other golfers that they start playing well so they're pretty loose out there. They want to have fun because they know they're playing well. So just as a curiosity question, what's Austin like?

He's pretty consistent once the round starts. He is a social golfer. Right before the first tee box, introduces himself to the other players and caddies. We'll crack a couple of jokes there just to establish a, hey, I'm open to talking this round. And then right off the bat, he hits his shot and we're walking to our next shot in the fairway. And he's asking.

the golfer where he's based out of, how long he's been on tour. He really does enjoy keeping a social round. Not overly social, like a conversation every other hole, but it really does loosen us up. Just interacting with everyone else in your crew, in your group that day, it creates an environment where you're literally just...

Saturdays with that boys like hanging it. Yeah. So yeah, it tried to try to create that as much as possible. Yeah, does he? I know it you hear stories about golfers pulling some pranks on their caddies. Has he pulled any pranks on you? Loaded the golf bag up with some extra weights there or anything like that? Oh, no, not not even give my dudes.

Luckily, I've steered clear from any rookie hazing. No. Yeah, luckily he has kept me clear of any cold pranks. Well, let's keep it clean slate then, right? Yeah, exactly. So for people, I mean, even myself, I do watch Korn Ferry tours when I get a chance.

when I see him on the golf channel and stuff like that. But you don't get to understand the full development of the corn fairy tour as a viewer and as a fan. So for like myself included, but for the listeners out there, the corn fairy tour is obviously as basic as I could put it, like the minor leagues, right? We're working our way to get onto the PGA tour. So, right, there's not...

the glamorous lifestyle in certain aspects at the PGA tour. You know, once you get there has if I'm wrong, you know, please correct me because I'm guessing like the traveling aspect can get pretty brutal at sometimes depending where you guys are at and tournament wise and stuff like that. And I know the money is not as vast as it obviously is in the PGA that we continuously hear on the news.

and the golf channel, how they're continuing trying to increase the value of the PJ tour ever since the live tour came about. So I'm just, you know, kind of, you know, curious, you know, like the ins and outs of the corn fairy tour, not so much like the tournament, but just the overall, I mean, you guys are new to the corn fairy tour this year, right? Is what you said. So how's it, how's it, how's it been on the corn fairy so far for you guys?

It's been going well. I guess I can answer in two parts. First, the glamour side. That's the crazy part about the Corn Fairy Tour. It is such a spectrum. The top 50, 60 guys are actually making a killing. They make a good amount of money. It's the first tier of golf where you can make real good money. But on the...

It's also all your expenses have, it's the first big jump of all your expenses. So these guys, it's kind of like, they got to win 80, $90 ,000 to break even in here. So if you're in the top 50, 60 people, you're doing that then son, that's an awesome year and you're living comfortably and you're playing golf for a living and you're sponsored by a few companies. Yeah. It's like, for.

for a good amount of guys on tour, it is the beginning of a pretty cushy lifestyle. But if you're not in that 60, 70 range, you're losing money. So that's been such an interesting thing for me to kind of see what makes a professional last. Isn't as much as, I mean, of course being a great golfer is important, but you really got to be a great entrepreneur as well. Like the guys that are making it last.

Are finding ways to, you know, they're reaching out to sponsorship deals. They're getting their sell some financial runway so that they can survive a little bit longer to get another chance of making it to the top. So that's been a kind of a mind blowing thing for me. It's like the guys who are the legitimate professionals. They are also business professionals as well. They're giving themselves that financial runway. But then in terms of the travel with corn fairy, I mean,

I mean, the travel with golf period is nuts. Whether you're on the PGA tour or you're on the PGA tour America. Um, you know, it's, you arrive to a tournament on Monday morning, Monday afternoon. You are immediately going to the course to get at least nine holes in practice Tuesday. Uh, you, you know,

Get back to the course, get hopefully 18 holes walking and then a little bit more practice. Wednesday you might play in the Pro -In. So you get nine holes with three randoms, amateurs, which these guys, when they're at the bend, they want to practice, get really high quality looks. And sometimes when you're paired with, you know.

three amateurs who don't play golf that much. It can be a great time, which a lot of times it is for us, but other times it's like, ah, dang. It really cuts a block in the flow of your practice. And then the event starts Thursday, and you've got Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then Sunday night, as soon as the tournament ends, we're going to the airport to fly to the next one. So it really...

We are on a three week break right now, so we have two more weeks until we leave for Savannah, Georgia. And that's really like our only time off. Once we leave for Savannah, there's something every single day. You're either golfing or traveling to the next spot every single day. So it is time. It is ever more important to have a caddy that you mesh with.

Just personality type wise because oh man if you can't stand the guy that's looping with you 18 holes week after week It quickly gets old Yeah, so Yeah, yeah, I guess the travel is pretty nice. I guess I never I guess I never knew or realized that the flow of the whole week is

pretty much identical to a PGA event with practice rounds, pro amps, and then play the tournament. So it's pretty wild. So I guess you're really, I guess I'm curious and kind of thinking out loud at the same time, when you see a lot of these guys go from the corn fairy to the PGA, I mean, I'm not saying it's a smooth transition, but you see a lot of guys that seem to acclimate pretty well. Obviously again, you know,

minus, you know, I'm sure that the conditions of the course are probably a little bit tougher or just depending on where you're playing. But you never see guys, I think struggle with that extra demand, which is, which I always thought was the practice rounds and the pro and leading into your four day tournament. So it's kind of cool to hear that the corn fairy tour does that as well. So these guys, including the caddies and yourself, you know, when you guys get to that next level,

You guys are ready. You guys have the muscle memory and the stamina. It's just now you got different competition. Now you got the Rory McElroy's and the Jordan Speets that you're going up against. It's just a little different scenario, but same, same stuff, right? Yeah. It's great preparation. It's the same skeleton, but yeah, just up in the ante a little bit. Yeah.

It is incredible preparation for the big show because there's a lot more than just golf that you have to learn and being a professional in golf. So yeah, Corn Fairy, PJ Tour of Latin America and Canada, which is now America's Tour, also did a great, it's that schedule for lesser stakes. So it's like, PJ Tour really does have a great feeder system, minor league baseball comparison.

for the PGA Tour. Yeah. So I'm also wondering too, so again, I feel like I've been beating this like with a dead horse on a lot of my previous episodes talking PGA versus the Live Tour. And I guess we don't get to hear too much from the corn fairy side. Is there a lot of chatter, concern when all these conversations, I mean, Live Tour,

erupts and we see certain golfers go over there, take the guaranteed money and stuff like that. Now from corn fairy perspective, I'm guessing, but correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, now that's creating openings for guys from the corn fairy, extra openings, I guess, maybe two, right? To go jump to the PGA at some point, it's during one, you know, three years ago when that took off. But now we hear a lot of the

The back and forth, the PGA is trying to get more money and potentially it might come from the same investment group as Liv Tour. I don't know how that necessarily flows through the corn fairy, but does that chatter kind of go back and forth with you guys at all? Is there concerns? Is there opportunities now with the Liv Tour and the PGA Tour now basically neck and neck, side by side and stuff like that?

from just a different tour perspective, you know, where's that kind of in your guys' eyes?

Yeah, I mean, to answer the question of do they talk about it? I mean, corn fair tour players, caddies are literally the boys. Like they talk about it just like, you know, everyone does. And inevitably we're all fans of golf. So they, everyone is talking about it. It's a topic of every encounter. It's a little bit about Liv.

But it's, I mean, what I'm going to say is nothing new. It's weird in the short term play for golf, but I think in the long term of golf, it's an awesome play. But it just is unknown of how long it will be until it's a good thing. It stinks that the talent is diluted between two major leagues. We want to see the best players that he's against.

best players like period. That's what golfers and competitors want. It doesn't necessarily mean we live or PGA Tour. They really don't care. They want the best to compete against the best every week and to have that credit. So what I'm picking up is they really don't care how you call it. They love the game of golf. They want the game of golf to be unified and have everyone at the same tournaments.

And then to your question, does it create more opportunity for us? Not so much in the current, like in terms of opportunities on the big stage, not too much. I mean, golf is a ginormous game. There are thousands of guys vying for all these spots. And I think Liv has, you might know better than me, maybe 80 golfers, 70 or 80.

Don't know the exact number, but yeah, I mean it's it's definitely in that general area if not less right now Yeah, so it's like they have some awesome talent, but it's not like there's been a Massive shift to like oh shoot. There's a bunch of spots open for grab on the PGA tour It's it's I mean at the end of the day the insane way to get into the PGA tour as it has been you got to finish top 30 At the end of this corn fairy tour season and you get your card

So that's kind of what we have, our, you know, our focus is. The, the, the live PGA tour, you know, chatterbox literally is that that's all it is for us. We don't know any more than the average consumer does. So we gossip about it just like talking heads do. Yeah. I mean, and, you know, I think I've talked about this on prior recordings and prior episodes, and even like what just in general,

You know what friends and family, you know, we're talking golf or watch it. Yeah, I keep telling everybody in my personal opinion. I think we're I don't think we're leaps and bounds, but we're we're still a safe distance away from seeing any type of merger if there's one in the future. I'm with you. I think it's I don't like saying there's an asterisk against different tournaments when guys win, but at the same time it's certain.

tournaments outside of the majors, we're not seeing all the top golfers play against all the top golfers, which is ultimately, like you said, consumers and fans of golf. That's really what we look, what we're always itching for. I mean, I think that's why the majors are the majors, right? And, um, it's other tournaments where we don't get to see it like a waste management or, you know, as of recently, like the Genesis and stuff like that, where, uh,

You know, like a John Rom who won last year at one of those is now at live. So he doesn't get to defend and stuff like that. It's, um, you know, I don't necessarily agree with, I think it was Taylor Gooch said, you know, these are all going to have asterisks for all the guys that win. Cause we're not there. I wouldn't take away anything from that aspect, but to his point, I get what he's saying. It's like, Hey, you guys are winning tournaments, but there's about 50 of us that are in the.

If the rankings were legit and the, what is it? The OWGR, you know, basically didn't reject the live tour guys. You know, he said, Hey, there's 50 of us that are probably in the top 50 that you guys aren't playing against. So just keep that in mind when we see you guys in Augusta for the ones that are invited for the first major. Um, so yeah.

It's like, at least we have the majors to kind of settle all of those debates, like in terms of asterisks and whatnot. It's like, you know, we got the big tournaments to kind of settle the competitive debate. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Speaking of the majors, because I don't know. And the court personally, I don't know the corn fairy tour.

Like as far as like the different tournaments and courses that you guys are playing at each week throughout the year, and like the caliber of courses I should say are the tournaments, is there like corn fairy majors at all or something of like that sort?

No majors, but similar to like the FedEx Cup, we have, I believe the final two events are our playoff styled events. So, I don't even know, it's not nearly what it is on the PGA Tour where it's like what top 70 and then 60 for St. Jude or whatever. But this one's like 125, I believe in standings. So the final two events of the year are.

not guaranteed to everyone technically, but it's a much larger scoop than the rest, or then PGA Tour. But no, no majors, no elevated events. It's the same purse for each event. All right, sounds good. Well, hey, JP, I appreciate your time joining us on That's Too Bad podcast here, talking to us, Korn Ferry, and just talking golf with us. We appreciate your time.

We were wishing you and Austin best of luck this season and we're going to check the leaderboards every week to see where you guys are at and might reach out to you later this year. I know you guys are going to have a busy schedule. Maybe down the line later this year, we can get you guys back on maybe you and Austin and check in and how the season's going for you guys. But we appreciate your time today and yeah, let's have a good season this year.

Let's go. Yeah. More appearances and maybe I'll have some rookie hazing stories for you. Yeah. There we go. I appreciate it. Sweet. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. No problem. Thank you.

Alright, I hope you guys enjoyed that conversation I had with Korn Ferry, Caddy, JP Burke. I know I had a blast having them on. It was a great conversation and hopefully maybe we can get them back on here to give us an update later in the season on how everything's going and you know, just what's going on with him and everything on the Korn Ferry tour in general. But yeah, this wraps it up for me on the That's Too Bad podcast. Don't forget, go...

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